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Over stocking question
« on: January 28, 2017, 05:31:36 PM »
I have a 60 gallon tank. Running marineland 360 canister rated for 125 gallon. One powerhead one in tank uv sterilizer (also a powerhead) as of right now all my levels are good I have 15 Africans right now. My question is can I add more fish with my regular maintenance (one 30-50% water change per week) and without adding any more equipment.

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Re: Over stocking question
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2017, 05:35:59 PM »
What are your currant fishes?
What do you plan on adding?   Question too broad.
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Re: Over stocking question
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2017, 05:39:34 PM »
Mixed tank peacock mbuna. I know some people don't agree with mixing but there is no aggression in my tank. I plan on addin more male peacock all male tank by the way

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Re: Over stocking question
« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2017, 05:48:23 PM »
From a filtration point of view what are your nitrate kevels before and after your weekly water change? From a population point of view my gut feeling is that if you have a good balance in your tank it would be more prudent not to upset the apple cart.

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Re: Over stocking question
« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2017, 05:55:40 PM »
Nitrate levels are usually between 40 and 60  before water change Amanioa and nitrite alaways 0

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Re: Over stocking question
« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2017, 06:33:20 PM »
Also curious if when I add fish should I rearrange tank as a precaution

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Re: Over stocking question
« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2017, 07:15:42 PM »
Were you thinking of adding more mbuna or peacocks? What species? Considering it is advisable to add no less than 4-5 new fish, probably as juvies, I would not change the rockscape but as your nitrates are getting high-ish by the end of the week you may well have to up your water changes
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Re: Over stocking question
« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2017, 07:21:56 PM »
Was thinking of adding more peacocks. Not sure what species yet. Something vibrant to add a little more life to the tank not sure what yet though.

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Re: Over stocking question
« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2017, 07:23:41 PM »
Your already overstocked Imo If your at 40-60ppm nitrate before each waterchange. You add more fish your nitrates are just going to get higher faster. You might want to consider either doing 75% water changes once a week or 2x 40-50% a week. More filtration will not help you keep nitrates down. How much and how often are you feeding a day? Any pics of your setup?
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Re: Over stocking question
« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2017, 07:43:39 PM »
I feed 2-3 times a day what they can eat in a minute. I feed new life spectrum 1mm cichlid formula and hkari cichlid excel 1mm pellet. For some reason it's not letting me upload pics

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Re: Over stocking question
« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2017, 08:41:33 PM »
I feed 2-3 times a day what they can eat in a minute. I feed new life spectrum 1mm cichlid formula and hkari cichlid excel 1mm pellet. For some reason it's not letting me upload pics
Cut back on your feeding to once a day what they can eat in a minute or 2x a day what they can eat in 30 seconds. No need to feed 3x a day that much. Hikari is also crap food I would Get rid if it asap. If your looking for variety in food get some northfin or omega one.
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Re: Over stocking question
« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2017, 08:42:07 PM »
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Re: Over stocking question
« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2017, 10:29:39 PM »
i have to be honest here. imo youre already over stocked and under filtered. a c360 cannot filter a 125g, especially a heavily stocked cichlid tank. filter companies grossly exaggerate flow rates. mike is right, your  nitrate issue is a matter of water volume. theres simply not enough water to dilute the nitrates as they build up. thats why your nitrates are high. i would consider rehoming some fish or double the amount of water changes youre doing.  ideally your nitrates should be 20 or lower.

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Re: Over stocking question
« Reply #13 on: January 28, 2017, 11:33:32 PM »
Ok just did water test and nitrate is 10ppm don't know why but last week it was 40 sorry for the confusion. And I have been feeding 3x a day

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Re: Over stocking question
« Reply #14 on: January 29, 2017, 06:20:30 AM »
I do not like mixing Peacocks and Mbunas in general, but there are some that can be mixed.  Mbunas in general are more aggressive, and just because they do not show aggression, does not make them less aggressive. 
The Mbunas may keep the Peacocks from showing their best color, or even give them BLOAT. 
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Re: Over stocking question
« Reply #15 on: January 29, 2017, 10:12:55 AM »
im not a supporter of mixed tanks either, theyre unpredictable. aggression is one part of the equation, and that can change at the drop of a hat. their dietary needs are very different as well. your peacocks may do ok, but they wont thrive in a mixed tank imo.