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Offline xRichh94

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Future planning
« on: January 26, 2017, 03:40:42 PM »
Hi, I'm new to the forum but I have looked at it quite a few times. I'm just planning for the future with this but I'm wondering if there is any chance I could get demasoni, blue johanni and white top hara in a tank together. I love the look of these species and would love to have them together in one tank.

If they are compatible then can you please tell me what size tank would be recommended and what quanties of each species would be recommended (including m:f).

Thank you :)

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Re: Future planning
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2017, 05:04:43 PM »
Hey mate,

Hope the email helped, I think you will want to make an introduction on the introduction board.

Give us a run down there on where you are in your tank planning, what you can fit and afford size wise and scaping then the stock you would like.

I'm new to this myself and won't be a huge help but there's plenty of others here who would be accommodating and knowledgeable.

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Re: Future planning
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2017, 05:12:41 PM »
Thank you very much for the email, but I'm a long way off the tank I'm thinking of.

I've been given a 120 litre for now, so I'm going to start with that tank, thinking of putting a small group of saulosi in there, hoping for 1m:6f.

I've had two bigger tanks in the past but I was a lot younger then and only played around with all male tanks. Hoping for the 3 species tank in the future.

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Re: Future planning
« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2017, 05:19:48 PM »
Ah fair play I hope it goes well for you. Hopefully more of the guys will appear to cover the grouping of the 3 fish you highlighted an interest in above.
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Re: Future planning
« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2017, 05:25:18 PM »
Just looked at the first website you suggested and it looks to be a great website, very informative. Has the 3 species from my first post and I'm sure they're great quality but no saulosi unfortunately haha. Thanks for the help :)

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Re: Future planning
« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2017, 06:29:21 PM »
120 liter is probably a bit small even just for 1 male and a few female saulosi. I would not want to keep long term mbuna, even the smaller species, in less than 120 cm length
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100gal Saulosi, OB Zebras,  Perlmutt, Maingano, Rusties

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Re: Future planning
« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2017, 06:33:05 PM »
Ah ok, I guess a year or 2 would be too long, what would you recommend? I've seen shellies but I'm not greatly keen to be honest.

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Re: Future planning
« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2017, 07:09:03 PM »
Liters aside, what are the actual measurements of the tank?
100gal yellow Labs, Acei, Rusties, Cynotilapia Jalo Reef, Labeotropheus t. Chilumba, Melanochromis dialeptos
100gal Saulosi, OB Zebras,  Perlmutt, Maingano, Rusties

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Re: Future planning
« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2017, 09:58:50 PM »
I used several 30 gallon tanks for Saulosi grow out tanks in my previous fishroom.  Temporarily I would think im-3/4f would fly but still a lot of work to change soon unless the plan is going into at least a 75 gallon tank. The 75 gives decent footprint to work with. Demasoni are generally always kept in large groups due to their territorial demands and lack of sociability with others. Spend time researching demeanors and needs of dwarf Mbuna and feel free to ask further questions. Plan to over-filter due to the bio-load and needs of Cichlids. Water changes/water turnover/and having filtration with much aerobic and anaerobic bacteria is a necessity.
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Re: Future planning
« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2017, 10:39:05 PM »
i think shellies are your best bet. i keep saulosi and i dont think they would do well in a tank that size long term. 

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Re: Future planning
« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2017, 11:47:40 PM »
I'm not 100% sure on the dimensions on the tank, I'll have to measure it tomorrow, and I'll probably be looking at say a 90 gallon tank for the 3 species but I'm not sure if that's big enough.

As for the rock dwellers, are there any colourful ones like the mbuna? I don't mind the size it's just the colour that puts me off. Thanks for all the help so far by the way.

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Re: Future planning
« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2017, 11:48:08 PM »
Shell dwellers sorry*

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Re: Future planning
« Reply #12 on: January 29, 2017, 09:08:37 AM »
Not super colourful maybe the gold occies or yellow mustax but what they lack in wow factor they more than make up in personality  they way they move shells and bury them

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Re: Future planning
« Reply #13 on: January 29, 2017, 09:58:44 AM »
tangs in general arent as colorful as malawi.

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Re: Future planning
« Reply #14 on: January 29, 2017, 10:36:50 AM »
If you are planning a bigger tank, as you probably have read, length is what to aim for most, then width and height is only last. So you are better off with a shallow/narrow 5-6 foot tank than a deep shorter one. The 120 liter tank will come in handy as a quarentine/hospital/ nursery/growout
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Re: Future planning
« Reply #15 on: January 29, 2017, 11:30:22 AM »
tangs in general arent as colorful as malawi.
True it's more the body shape and subtle colours that make them so cool ;)

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Re: Future planning
« Reply #16 on: January 29, 2017, 01:14:02 PM »
Alright well thank you very much everyone for the help, I'll aim for at least 5 foot but I'll try make sure I have the longest tank I can find room for haha

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Re: Future planning
« Reply #17 on: January 29, 2017, 03:46:20 PM »
its true tank length is important, but narrow tanks are a pita. very hard to scape with.just shoot for the largest tank possible. 75g or above would be a good start.

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Re: Future planning
« Reply #18 on: January 29, 2017, 03:50:39 PM »
I will do, thanks for the advice :) and that's for the 3 species as stated at first right? Just to confirm.

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Re: Future planning
« Reply #19 on: January 29, 2017, 03:56:23 PM »
i think its good practice to go as big as you can with any tank really. bigger tanks are less maintenance and more stable. they are more expensive, but youre not limited to what you keep as much.it sucks wanting fish you cant have.

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Re: Future planning
« Reply #20 on: January 29, 2017, 05:29:49 PM »
Yeah I'm hoping to go for a 6ft in the future but for this tank that I've been given, I'm just wondering if Golden Six Bar Lamprologus is a shell dweller or is it small enough for a 120 litre? Sorry for not having the dimensions just yet, I need to buy a tape measure haha

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Re: Future planning
« Reply #21 on: January 29, 2017, 05:33:28 PM »
If not then I'm thinking of going for multies if I can find some.

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Re: Future planning
« Reply #22 on: January 29, 2017, 05:44:32 PM »
Here's a write up on them......they get pretty big.

https://en.aqua-fish.net/fish/six-bar-lamprologus

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Re: Future planning
« Reply #23 on: January 29, 2017, 06:00:22 PM »
Yeah I saw something saying they were smaller, I think it's multies for me. Thanks for the help.

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Re: Future planning
« Reply #24 on: February 03, 2017, 08:28:35 AM »
tangs in general arent as colorful as malawi.

Tangs are for the connoisseur  :nod:
You could have Punks, a few lelupi, couple of Julie's, Cyps, may not breed successfully but would look nice.
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